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've had a rifle and a gun since i was a boy. i'm a lifelong member of the n.r.a. i just came back from a hunting trip. but ron, he said, you go back to washington and you get your colleagues to do something about the assault weapons and the extended clips and that is what i'm here to do along with my colleagues and we look forward to reaching a cross the aisle and having a similar dwarfing of republican members of -- gathering of republican members of congress to take care of this problem once and for all. >> i want to thank you for your outstanding leadership on this matter. i'm a discharged veteran who earned an expert marksmanship medal while i was in the service. i'm also the parent of a son murdered on the south side of the city of chicago. and i am a pastor of my church. i am here to support hr 308. the large capacity ammunition device act which i have been a co-sponsor of since march of last year. hearing reports that there are 264,000 -- rifles manufactured each year in the u.s. and of those a 5,443 are exported overseas and 248,000 are used right here in the u.s. a bitter iron
, the nra, making it clear today its opposition to any new gun laws in the wake of the connecticut shooting. on nbc's "meet the press" the group's ceo stood by remarks he made at an event on friday in which he argued for armed guards in school. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try to do that. >> but democratic senator charles schumer wasn't buying the single solution approach. >> we have to look at a holistic solution. we cannot just make the new normal one of these mass shootings every month, and that seems to be what's happening. so we should try all kinds of different things. >> it was a debate at the center of all the sunday morning talk shows with both sides making their case. cnn's barbara stahr following the story from washington. hello to you. what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pi
to keep the pressure on because the other side doesn't stop. the nra and its nuts who oppose -- look of course we are all for the second amendment. we have gone way beyond the second amendment. this is ridiculous. i used to hunt with my uncle, with my dad. i have a 20-gauge double-gauge shotgun or whatever it was when i was probably 13, the biggest thing in my love. i loved it loved my gun. but the idea of these semi oughtics, people need this, this is ridiculous. it's not like automatic rifles it's wrong and we haven't talked about it enough. we have to talk about it enough. here are some of the numbers that i saw again over the weekend. since 1982, 61 mass murders in this country with firearms. 61. eleven of them in schools. nineteen in the workplace. 3 one in military basis. on black friday, this year 154,000 guns were sold. 2 million guns sold in the month of month of november alone. there are 400 gun shops within the four counties of connecticut where newtown is located. and there are more gun sellers in this country today than there are mcdonald's.
on guns will kick off a new fight in washington. the nra spent $18.6 million supporting and opposing candidates during the 2012 cycle. according to the sun life found case, 51% of the numbers of the new congress have received funding from the national rifle association's political action committee at some point in their political careers. the nra is known for staying silent, running out the clock after tragedies like the one in newtown but yesterday there was a sign that they may be feeling more political pressure than ever before and from the changing tone around the country. group released a statement saying, "they are shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the newtown tragedy." out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for morning prayer and a full consideration of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the nra also announced a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday. they didn't say where. while the nra spent several days mostly quiet, n
we have a good chance. obviously we're waiting to see what the nra is going to be offering on friday. i am hoping and i have always reached out to them to say that we need to work together. the interest of what we have is a gun safety and trying to make sure that people are not killed. so we will wait until friday to see what they have to say, but i have to say here in congress, trying to reach out and talk to a number of republican friends, they're not committing on anything yet. so i ask if anybody is talking about it on their side of the aisle. apparently, one or two members are, but they have not come board yet. i hope in the coming days and weeks we will start to see more republicans join us. >> you had quite a reaction after white house spokesperson jay carney, right after the massacre, said this. >> there is, i am sure, will be rather a day for discussion of the usual washington policy debates, but i don't think today is that day. >> your response, congressmember mccarthy? >> i was furious. as soon as that press conference was over, i called the white house. listen, we have go
a conservative republican who received the nra's highest ratings over four terms in congress. i saw this debate over guns as a powerful symbolic struggle between individual rights and government control. and you know what? in the years after waco and ruby ridge, the symbolism of that debate seemed even more powerful to me. but the symbols of that ideological struggle, they've been shattered by the harvest's own from violent, mind-numbing video games and gruesome hollywood movies that dangerously desensitize those who struggle with mental health challenges. and then add in military-styled weapons and high-capacity magazines to that equation, and tragedy can never be too far behind. you know, there's no easy ideological way forward. if it were only that simple as to blame hollywood or the nra or insufficient funding for mental health, then our task would be completed in no time. but i come to you this morning with a heavy heart and no easy answers. still, i've spent the past few days grasping for solutions and struggling for answers. while daring to question my own long-held belief on these subje
of this unspeakable crime. out of respect for the families and until the facts are known, the n.r.a. has refrained from comment. while some have tried to exploit tragedy for political gain, we have remained respectively silent. now we must speak for the safety of our nation's children. because for all the noise and anger directed at us over the past week, no one, nobody has addressed the most important pressing and immediate question we face, how do we protect our children right now, starting today n a way that we know works? the only way to answer that question is to face the truth. politicians pass laws for gun free school zones, they issue press releases bragging about them. they post signs advertising them. and in doing so, they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. how have our nation's priorities gotten so far out of order? think about it. we care about our money so we protect our banks with armed guards. american airports, office buildings, power plants, courthouses, even sports stadiums are all protected by armed
support is out there. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks. you know, that consensus is out there. we just have to make that felt in the halls of congress. >> but the important political consensus is of the organization, the nra that can mobilize numbers of voters who will vote on that issue only. and the nra leadership has been the enablers of the mass murders. and they've got to be called on it. they've got to be called on it by the president and the leaders of congress to confront the nra leadership, as bob said. nra members, they're okay with reasonable gun controls. the nra leadership has been fanatic and frankly functions as enablers to mass murder, and they've got to be stopped on that. >> and we have to face the value of some of the rhetoric. lindsey graham was on tv the other night saying in response to talking about sensible gun laws that no, i believe in the second amendment. i like to hunt that not contrary to the sensible gun laws that anybody is advocating. you know, when you talk about something like criminal background checks, that has nothing to do wi
people agree on this issue much more than our leaders in congress. i mean 74% of nra members and gun owners support having background checks for all gun sales. right now, only 40 -- sorry, 60% of gun sales take place with a background check. so we have huge disagreement there among gun owners, nongun owners, blue states, red states, we need to see that sort of agreement on capitol hill. the people are there, we need to follow the will of the people. >> i do think sometimes there's a tremendous chasm on how guns are viewed in places like chicago, new york and california, how they're viewed in versus how they're viewed in places like i'm from in south carolina, or in rural places like newtown, connecticut. >> i think it's true that there is some disagreement, but what i'm saying is there's also a lot of agreement and a lot of things that we can do which would save a lot of lives, because another thing that we have to do, a massacre like this, causes us all to confront the specter of gun violence that happens every day, often in shootings that don't make the national news. so we need to
with the president's position that both sides should avoid tax hikes on middle-class americans. also, nra executive said the group would not support any new gun laws in this country. good morning this monday, december 24, 2012. we will begin this morning with your thoughts on religion and politics. as a religion influence your political decisions? also send us your tweet if you go to -- we will begin with the sunday review section of the "the new york times" yesterday. we want to get your take on this. it does religion influence your politics? with more people saying they are unaffiliated. we want to get your take. here are some comments from facebook this morning. what are your thoughts on this december 24, 2012. it does religion influence your politics? let me show you this from "the new york times" this morning. a new poll out worldwide religion shows up that one out of six follows no religion. that is worldwide. all religions outside the united states as well. the upi story. religious identity affect voter choice. and then on the 2012 election, here is the pew forum on religion and
grew up in a gun family. my dad is a gun guy, and nra guy, and i have probably been to more gun shows than virtually every pundit who has appeared on cable news this week and i can tell you it's time to close the loophole, reinstitute the assault weapons ban. we're never going to get rid of every gun. you know, hal was talking on the show yesterday about the culture, and there is a fear -- i think if you were to tell gun enthusists that all you wanted to go is register every gun that people owned, make sure that they were licensed, and that's all that was going to happen, and they were confident that that's is all that is going to happen, they would go for it. but the fear they have is somebody is going to come and scoop up their guns. and where does that come from? the nra. >> stephanie: exactly. >> my favorite obama line from his press conference is that basically it's time to act. we have been talking about these things for -- for years now. >> stephanie: yeah. >> and there are so many -- >> stephanie: karl we have talked about this before with gay rights there d
in terms of the government taking your guns. we need to remember that one of the biggest members of the nra are gun manufacturers, who benefits from the sales of guns? the gun manufacturers, the nra is a huge -- they are ones that are stoking the fear of guns being taken away. they get a dollar of a sale of a gun or a package of ammunition at many stores. so they benefit by having this weird relationship where they are stoking the fear that the government is taking the guns away. and gun manufacturers benefit financially and so does the nra, i do not think we should forget about that. >> that is a point worth making. colin, a question, are you a nra member? not to put on the spot. >> i am, i'm a lifetime member. >> do you have high capacity clips? >> i do not. do you see the need to restrict those? >> it's on the edge of what is supposed to be allowed. this is relatively close to it. there's reaches that i think a lot of people are going to talk about. it's possible that a high capacity magazine restriction could be done in a way that is constitutional, and i'm not sure that frankly it's go
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is already gearing up for a fight. fox news reports that the nra is expected to push back soon. they'll hold a news conference on friday. and republican governors still aren't convinced that guns are the problem. governor jan brewer says quote, i'm not sure additional gun control is something that needs to be addressed. i don't know how we get our arms around it. don't know how to get your arms around it? how about disarming those who shouldn't have weapons? and virginia governor bob mcdonald seems to think there are many solutions to be pursued. but gun control. >> could you imagine ever supporting a ban to limit the sale of assault rifles and clips to private citizens? >> well, i think we ought to look at a number of things -- >> are you hoping? >> i don't think that's the first place you look. because first of all we don't have all the facts. >> we don't have all the facts. but we have the facts that matter. 27 people are dead. and we should do everything we can to prevent it from happening again. joining me now is congresswoman diana degette, democrat from colorado. and former pennsylvan
differently. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. and here's what we know -- that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. and what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this; that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen again. and there is a big chunk of space between what t
come "outfront" to talk specifics. plus, arizona's attorney general backs a plan reminiscent of the nra to arm school principles. does more guns in schools begin to add up? and the biggest political fumbles. the best of the worst from our politicians. >>> i'm in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, christmas is over. washington get back to work. the countdown is on. the clock is ticking. you've got six days to prevent this country from going over the fiscal cliff and today at least, we didn't see any action. nothing. nothing, nada. now, i'm not trying to be a grinch here. i hope everyone's had a merry, merry christmas. just like the president prescribed. >> drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols. >> but today's the 26th. you've drunk, you eaten and you've sung. now is the time for action. the latest news out of washington tonight, treasury secretary tim geithner told congress that the country will hit the debt ceiling on december 31st, new year's eve, some two months earlier than expected. but there is still no date yet on when the house of represent
's largest gun lobby organization continues to call for armed police or guards in schools. the nra says it does not support any new gun control legislation and any knew efforts by congress to regulate guns or ammunition would not prevent mass shootings like the one in connecticut. the nra response is being panned on several fronts, even from republicans. >> i say not to mention guns in trying to eliminate sool violence is like not mentioning cigarettes in trying to eliminate lung cancer. it makes no sense. i am hopeful we can get this done in a bipartisan way with democrats and republicans joining together. >> i am not someone that believes having multiple armed guards in every school is something that will enhance the learning environment. that is the first responsibility inside of school is the learning environment. you don't want to make this an armed camp for kids. >> on friday president obama assembled a task force to reduce gun violence and wants concrete proposals in a month. >>> residents in mount airy, maryland, will take time out to honor the victims of the school shooting in
is rushing to resurrect a bill on gun control. the most responsible set of comments came from the n.r.a. which said at the beginning when the events begin unfolding on tv let's wait for all the facts to come in. i'm calling as a former v.a. homeless outreach worker in rest l.a. one third of america's homeless are military veterans. every one of them could be off the street with mental health problems and so forth if the v.a. would process the claims that have been four and a half years delayed. we sue the v.a. in the ninth u.s. circuit court of appeals in may of last year. the government under obama and holder appealed that win before the three justices panel in may of last year to the full court which set aside our victory and veterans are now back to square one with no mental health issues from a v.a. under a former four-star army general who refuses to process our benefits claim. host: ok. here is paul on twitter. my question is how will balm care -- obama care address the shortage in our country? the "new york times," front page this morning, signaling openness to limits. senator jo
are recovering from surgery. >>> the moderator of "meet the dress" was interviewing nra vice president wayne lapierre when he brought out something that caught the attention of d.c. police. >> here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. isn't it possible if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said you could only have a magazine that carries five or ten bullets, isn't it just possible we could reduce the carnage in a situation like newtown? >> i don't believe that's going to make one difference. >> it's not known whether that magazine was an authentic clip or just a prop. possessing a large capacity magazine is illegal in the district of columbia. police are investigating. nbc not commenting. >>> guess what it's boxing in the uk, canada and several other country and shoppers are mobbing the stores. these are the crowds in london. the 26th of december is like black friday here in the united states. analysts expect 4 million british shopper also spend nearly $5 billion today, back here at home, it will be a similar scene today as people head to return those unwanted gift
. >> virginia democratic senator mark warner has an a-rating from the n.r.a. and made year today he disagrees with their idea and thinks that multiple steps must be taken to avoid mass murder. >> if my memory is correct, there actually was an armed individual at columbine years ago and didn't prevent that tragedy. so i think we need a comprehensive approach, i think it looks at mental health. i think it looks the at protecting our schools and i also think it looks at these high volume magazines, you know, and can fire off so many rounds. >> the n.r.a. ceo said this morning, banning those high capacity magazines won't make any difference when it comes to making people safer, harris. >> harris: peter, thank you. now to the tragedy in newtown, connecticut, and the community mourning the deaths of 20 children and six adults murdered at sandy hook elementary school. today at religious services church leaders received sustaining ovations from parishioners helping cope with the grief. monsignor robert weiss who leads the parish in newtown says, quote, this has been the worst week of my life, but he
. >> the n.r.a. blasted in the media for call for armed guard in schools, and guess what, his approval rating higher than the president. so why won't they talk about that? we will next. >> a dramatic new video after deadly plane crash, the act moment a huge jet crashes into the highway. >> can you imagine being na driver? >> oh! >> welcome back, the mainstream media mock being the head of the n.r.a., all shoes should have guards, a gallup poll shows 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the national rifle association. why is the mainstream media so harsh on them? joining us now is a contributor to the daily collar, good morning to you jeff. >> good morning, thanks for having me on. >> i would say so. and it's a little rough on the n.r.a., but if you look at the overall approval rating, they think higher than president obama and higher than the media covering as well. >> dave: maybe the speech from wayne lapierre didn't represent perfectly members of the n.r.a. i know, some weren't happy about maybe the lack of consoling to the victims and maybe some sensible proposal for some sort of
. another of its events featured guns. >> this is the nra-sponsored shooting event. for legislators and for lobbyists. free. >> there was even one offering free cigars. >> sponsored by reynolds american, which is one of the biggest tobacco companies in the world, and the cigar association of america. >> it sounds like lobbying. it looks like lobbying. it smells like lobbying. but alec says it's not lobbying. in fact, alec operates not as a lobby group, but as a nonprofit, a charity. in its filing with the i.r.s. filing, alec says its mission is "education." which means it pays no taxes, and its corporate members get a tax write-off. its legislators get a lot too. >> in wisconsin, i can't take anything of value from a lobbyist. i can't take a cup of coffee from a lobbyist. at alec, it's just the opposite. you know, you get there and you're being wined and dined by corporate interests. i can go down there and be wined and dined for days in order to hear about their special legislation. i mean, the head of shell oil flew in on his private jet to come to this conference. the head of one
had a rifle and a gun since i was a boy. i'm a lifelong member of the n.r.a. i just came back from a hunting trip. but, ron, he said, you go back to washington and you get your colleagues to do something about the assault weapons and the extended clips. and that's what i'm here to do. along with my colleagues, and we look forward to reaching across the aisle and having a similar gathering of republican members of congress to work with us to take care of this problem once and for all. thank you. >> leader pelosi, dianne degette and carolyn mccarthy, i want to thank you for your outstanding leadership on this manner. i'm an honorably discharged veteran who earned an expert marksmanship medal when i was in the service. i'm also the parent of a son murdered on the south side of the city of chicago. and i am a pastor of a church. i'm here to support h.r. 308, the large capacity ammunition feeding device act, which i have been a co-sponsor of since march of last year. there are 264,194 a.r.-15 rifles, manufactured each year in the u.s., and of those, 5,443 are exported overseas, and 248,
friend and colleague, care lynn mccarthy. close the gun show loophole. for starters, things that n.r.a. members agree with. let's care as much about real guns as we do about toy gun consumer protection. to start us down the road of making our children safer by treating children's gun safety like their auto safety. all the air bags, anti-drunk driving campaigns, child seats, driver education, careful licensing, it slashed the accident rate but it didn't eliminate them altogether. we can't imagine a world without these protections for our families. let's see if we can imagine a world where our children are safer from gun violence. and then make it happen. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair recognizes the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. murphy, for five minutes. mr. murphy: madam speaker, i rise today with a heavy heart, to honor petty officer nicholas , a person who sacrificed his life in the most honorable of ways, to protect and save the life of another human being. his life was a testament to the core values of the united states navy, honor, courage and commitme
it done? >> well, they probably don't have the votes today. it will be interesting to see what the nra who is going to be making press announcements tomorrow start to say and whether they start letting some members off the hook on assault weapons bans. i don't know if they will, but i can tell you this. the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was never going to pass. he was the number one recipient of nra money in his campaign over this last year. a lot of senators are going to find themselves in the cross hairs because of taking all of that money and when he comes back to -- tries to come back to the senate, that may very well be a big issue. >> like jo
to cause some type of problems or havoc in the schools. >> wayne lapierre from the nra says the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun. how is the response from the phoenix area community? do they accept this? they like my posse. i've been doing it 20 years. they love the posse at the malls. as i said, we finished another program, there's no serious crime. so why not utilize volunteers that only operate under the elected sheriff. i swear them in and they're law enforcement. ex cops, you maim it. 3,000, by the way i'm going to recruit more to help fight this problem that we have in the schools. >> sheriff joe, i have a couple of seconds. how many schools do you have in the phoenix area? >> well, there's about 2,000 in the state. but there's about in the in my main jurisdiction to i'm going to concentrate on those 50 schools. >> i have to leave it there. thank you for joining us. i want to point out to the viewers, john boehner is leaving the -- he just left the white house and it looks like the meeting has come to an end. it's been -- there he is getting in th
the discussion. >> we have got to sit down. i ask all my friends in the nra and i'm a proud nra member and always have been, we need to sit down and move this dialogue to a reasonable approach to fixing it. everything has to be on the table and i think it will be. >> in the west, a lot of gun show customers have newtown on their minds and they have their own ideas as to how the shootings could have been prevented. here is cnn's casey wian. >> clm byolumbine, virginia tec sikh temple in wisconsin, an oregon shopping mall, even with the mass shootings it has become easier for most americans to carry a gun, own an assault rifle or use high capacity magazines. but in the aftermath of connecticut, voices, most notably from a tearful president obama, are calling for tighter gun control. you won't hear them at a california gun show held the day after the connecticut massacre. >> everybody is in a panic. i've never seen so many people at a gun show. i think they're worried about their second amendment rights. >> reporter: there is sympathy for the victims. >> it is horrible that those children did die. >
of gun owners who say, you know what? this time we've got to do things differently. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers and i would expect that they have been impacted by this as well and hopefully they will do some self-reflection and. here's what we know. that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we'll have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. and, you know, what wave seen over the past 20 years, 15 years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says, we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but, that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this. that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or auro
security guard on campus and another one nearby could not stop it. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: some teachers in utah say they want more gun training. and organizers are already planning another class for the next holiday break. cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >> you didn't have any armed teachers when you grew up, did you? >> i did. i had an armed teacher, not a teacher, an officer and a drug sniffing dog to go around and sniff the lockers. but i never thought about whether they made me feel safe. >> what do you think now in retrospect, do you think it kept your school safe? >> it may have. i grew up in a small town. we never had too many bad things happen. >> the discussions come up after newtown. these are very important discussions people are having about how to keep schools safe. i think the question i would ask, where do you draw the line? if it's teachers that are armed, who is to say parents might not say we want to patrol our kid's school? i don't know the answers to that. it's very complicated. >> it
show loopholes. host: what percentage of gun sales are from licensed dealers? guest: the nra and others have scared congress into passing all kinds of rules against keeping data. we do not know for sure. some estimates put it at 40% of guns are sold by unlicensed sellers, 60% through federally licensed dealers. nobody really knows. we know the number of background checks performed, the number of dealers, but we do not know the rest. host: legal curbs said to hamper, in "the new york times." guest: we do not have a registry of guns. we do not have a registry of gun owners. the rules are the opposite. the fbi cannot keep data on its gun checks for more than 24 hours. since we purchased it at every single day. that includes state of people who'd been prohibited from buying guns. the watch list and prohibited from flying, door not necessarily prohibited from buying a gun. there are a lot of very odd things in the way we keep data. host: the fbi has to purge within 24 hours. could somebody buy a gun every two or three days? guest: in most states, there are no limits at all. you could buy as
america, full disclosure. i am a handgun bonee owner and member of the nra. i'll do my best to stay in the middle on this one. alan, what did you think about what costas had to say there. >> you're not packing on the set there. >> no, jenna gets angry with me what i do that. the city of new york wouldn't allow it. >> he was quoting somebody else, obviously, i don't get the sense that he was calling for specific legislation, or saying here is what we should do. he wasn't specifically calling for gun control. he was saying some things that are true, we have a gun culture, and two, we could debate whether or not if jovan had a gun would he and his girlfriend be ali today? i think had he said there is a better chance that he would be -- or better than even chance he'd be alive today if they don't have a gun that might have been a better way to express it. he wasn't calling for specific legislation. i think it's interesting how conservatives have decided to jump on him immediately after that statement, which he had to address it and say something. jon: what i find interesting, jim is tha
you. i can hear you talking. >> that was a bad moment. >> if i heard the news correctly, the nra disappeared the young staffer. >> unless he was the one who wrote the bayonet joke then maybe there's forgiveness. there was another great moment i thought the president had in the second debate when he did the get the transcript moment. let's watch the president doing that. >> get the transcript. >> he did. >> can you say that louder candy? >> say it louder, candy. >> here is why it was amazing. some news shows, that aren't this news show refused to get the transcript. they called her out for being bias for reading words that happened. some news shows bring on the democrat and the republican. the democrat is like 2 plus 2 equals 4 and the republicans are like 2 plus 2 equals i hate women or something. the newscaster will be like i guess we'll never know. no, you do know. you have computers and staff. google it and tell me which one is right and who is lying. that was a moment where she said he is lying. i think everyone watching was like oh, this is what journalists can do because th
after the nra proposed putting an armed guard in every school. it was conducted among more than 1,000 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. >>> administrators and school staff members in utah are learning how to handle guns. a firearm instructor organized an event to provide teachers with concealed weapons. it's one of a number of states that allow them to take them on school campuses. >> i think it's important to have protection because if you don't have it we're sitting ducks. >> gun rights advocates estimate about 240 teachers in utah are licensed to carry concealed weapons. it's not known how many do so at school. >> this weekend thousands of people from across the country are headed to webster new york for services honoring two firefighters killed on duty. they were gunned down trying to put out a fire on christmas eve. the gunman torched his home and opened fire and later committed suicide. the two firefighters will be buried sunday and monday. those from around the u.s. are there for the funerals and thanks to local donations many are staying a
support arming school officials and 54 percent of the americans have favorable opinion of the nra. i love the story that you did on the 5 that kimberley did about the military guys. i don't know what branch he was in. he was standing outside of the school can making sure it was protected. >> kelly: again it shows that americans support the second amendment and right to bear arms because everyone . s to feel they are product exclude if they want to go out hunting they can do that. >> that is a great point, kelley. coming up a company that never fired anyone before is about to. >> i am trying to let people know it is not only hurting our industry but america. >> it is a new meaning to heavy metal. this boy plays drums on the mom's washing machine. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everyw
think about roosevelt having the wpa, the nra, the conservation program for boys that were taken out of homes and shipped to another state. they finished high school, but the mothers got $35 per month for sacrificing their sons. the w. pay -- wpa paid $12.50 per week if you had a shovel. years later i thought that that was so nice of roosevelt that he did this, and then i thought -- where did he get the money to do that? host: thank you for the call. let's take a look at the c-span facebook page. you can see how our viewers and listeners are weighing in so far. we asked -- what are you willing to give up? so far the most answers have come in for charitable giving. tied below that is the mortgage interest deduction. also the deduction from sponsored health insurance. so far most respondents have said -- none of the above. mike sent this week -- host: kurt, you are next. what would you be willing to give up? caller: i think we need to go down a whole different road and completely revamped the tax code, simplify it and make it a flat tax. if you are at a poverty level, up to 150% of pov
your home. this is an area where unfortunately the political debate, and you bring in the nra, is so removed from the basic common sense of most americans who understand that if you are responsible, careful, and you are not disturbed, you should be allowed to have weapons that are appropriate. our society is a wash with weapons. different states have different laws. it is not that hard to go to virginia from connecticut, by a weapon and bring it back. of course you are violating a law, but if we do not have that discussion, we have this incredibly disappointing and disheartening grief of -- outpouring of grief followed by no action. host: in "the washington post" we have this online he says -- do you think battle lines are being drawn, as to how democrats and republicans are going to respond to this in the new year? well, it is not just democrats and republicans. this is a debate where democratic people believe there should be no more gun control laws. to some extent, kathy is right, the laws are there. they were here in the state of connecticut. the assault weapon was not legal in t
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